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Guys learn to live the double life...
I had a female friend of my wife sleep over this past weekend... we went to our high school reunion friday night, dinner the next etc. I did alot of LISTENING to what the two girls talked about in discussions and here are my observations. Let me first say that I was sick to my stomach on Friday night from the Illusions and dream state that these 2 women in there 40's talked about... All their talk was based on non -reality ideas and situations.... My wifes friend is about a 72 out of 100 not bad. She has been divorced for 5 years and does not have a steady boyfriend (No kidding).. She is waiting for Prince Charming to walk through the door and sweep her away!! My wife and her friend acted like 2 seventeen yr olds and I played right along with this Fantasy world.. I did great and my wife is happy but im not!

So This where the double life comes in... What you do Is read Calle Zorro's books they are great!!! I have improved my marriage 50% in 3 weeks, and am confident I will get that to 90% in another month or two.
Find something you like to do by yourself or with your boys... Smoke cigars, watch sports, fish, flirt with girls whatever it is DO IT... You need to offset the fantasy world you now live in at home with real world feel good stuff... Every time you get sick to your stomach of the crap your wife makes you do offset this is a discreet way with things that make you happy... Example last night my wife and her friend went to a comedy club.... I went to a club and talked to 6 girls. Im happy and my wife is happy.... And the sex is getting better all the time!!! TRy this it really works

(04-05-2009 06:42 PM)starider Wrote: [ -> ]Guys learn to live the double life...
I had a female friend of my wife sleep over this past weekend... we went to our high school reunion friday night, dinner the next etc. I did alot of LISTENING to what the two girls talked about in discussions and here are my observations. Let me first say that I was sick to my stomach on Friday night from the Illusions and dream state that these 2 women in there 40's talked about... All their talk was based on non -reality ideas and situations.... My wifes friend is about a 72 out of 100 not bad. She has been divorced for 5 years and does not have a steady boyfriend (No kidding).. She is waiting for Prince Charming to walk through the door and sweep her away!! My wife and her friend acted like 2 seventeen yr olds and I played right along with this Fantasy world.. I did great and my wife is happy but im not!

So This where the double life comes in... What you do Is read Calle Zorro's books they are great!!! I have improved my marriage 50% in 3 weeks, and am confident I will get that to 90% in another month or two.
Find something you like to do by yourself or with your boys... Smoke cigars, watch sports, fish, flirt with girls whatever it is DO IT... You need to offset the fantasy world you now live in at home with real world feel good stuff... Every time you get sick to your stomach of the crap your wife makes you do offset this is a discreet way with things that make you happy... Example last night my wife and her friend went to a comedy club.... I went to a club and talked to 6 girls. Im happy and my wife is happy.... And the sex is getting better all the time!!! TRy this it really works

I would say there is nothing wrong with talking to six girls as long as the conversation was completely platonic. If however you are talking to six girls in a manner that your wife would not agree with then I think you're on the wrong track. You're stoking the embers of something that isn't good. Integrity is what you do when people aren't looking. There is nothing wrong with going out with the guys. There is something wrong when you act in a manner that you would get angry at your wife if she acted in the same manner be it drunk driving, flirting, doing drugs, etc.

Integrity is a value that women love. If you lack it, they will hate you. Do not give your wife a reason to hate you. That said, if your wife doesn't care that you flirt with other women and you enjoy that, then do it. But I can promise you this, if your wife doesn't care that you flirt with other women, she is also flirting with other men. It just doesn't sound like what I am looking for. To each his own though.

I wonder about this tact; guys in our situation who purposely do the 'lonewolf' or 'bad boy' thing to get sexually noticed by their spouse. For myself, I'm a serious home boy by default, my wife travels a lot in her job (sales), and for me, loneliness, lack of intimacy in my marriage is seriously driving me to consider going out on the prowl - not for sex, but for basic female companionship. I'd rather not, but it's killing me to know my wife is socially active with other professionals (men and women), and I'm stuck here at the house, having a blue collar, male-only job - there's no association with women in my line of work..

I do admit, I am slightly concerned about all the contact my wife has with the professional men she surrounds herself with, especially considering her latest comment of "we are just going in two different directions"... but I don't think she has literally cheated on me... yet.

As a result, I'm currently scheduling activities that include those of the opposite sex. Getting dressed-up nice and going with, or without my wife is my plan. Since she's on the road so often, I'm sure I'll be on my own, I want her to know this, and feel the way I feel when she's surrounded by those of the opposite sex. I believe a healthy dose of jealousy is needed.

Without changing my deep desire for intimacy with my wife, what do you all think of my plans to get out and mingle like my wife does?

Thanks

Well,

I can tell you what is spoken of more in the other forums and without getting into too much detail because they are exclusive for members who own the books, your wife mirrors how you act and carry yourself. I don't think getting her jealous is going to give you what you want, it will only authorize her to do the same thing and its much easier for women to flirt.

I recommend you get the more $exual marriage ebook and read it today! It's a great book and literally saved my marriage. It will help you learn the two main things women can't resist - masculinity, and social status. And how to converse with her in a masculine way that is attractive even when she is all fired up and bitch like they all get.

It will suggest a lot of work though, a lot of work on YOU. Upgrading your looks physically (work out) upgrade your financial status with more education, how to portray social status, and most importantly how a womans emotions and mind works. Your situation sounds tough, the "going in two different directions" statement should be a wakeup call.

(12-08-2009 12:06 PM)Arcana Wrote: [ -> ]...considering her latest comment of "we are just going in two different directions"... but I don't think she has literally cheated on me... yet.

Arcana, before you go down the road you outlined, please consider this: You just described one of the steps of a woman falling out of love with her man.

The next step is "I don't have feelings for you any more".

Then, it's, "I never had any feelings for you".

At this last stage, the relationship is nearly impossible to salvage.

(12-08-2009 12:06 PM)Arcana Wrote: [ -> ]Without changing my deep desire for intimacy with my wife, what do you all think of my plans to get out and mingle like my wife does?

To be frank, I think it will just speed up the process of both of you going separate directions. If you let it go to its ultimate conclusion, you will wind up getting divorced, having to pay child support (if you have kids), maybe having an affair and losing respect from people you love....

Consider this: I was well down the path of falling out of love with my wife. My wife and I lived basically separate lives under the same roof. Although I wasn't consciously out flirting with women, in the course of my work, I ran into someone who I really clicked with well. Someone who in her feminine way could read my body language like a book and often tell me exactly what I was thinking without my saying--and who I could read just as well... And I realized that if I allowed that relationship to continue, I would be shortly having an affair and basically destroying my family and ultimately my own life.

So I made a decision to SOLVE my family's problems.

Being a business man, I considered that the cost of Calle's books (just to start) would run me around $50 if I got Nymph Wife and More Sexual Marriage, compared with $100 PER VISIT for marriage and family counseling.

That looked like a pretty safe investment, considering the full money-back guarantee that Calle offers, so after calling Calle up on the phone and discussing how he could help me the most, I got both books.

Nymph Wife enabled both my wife and I to fall in love with each other again, more deeply than ever. This has made the marriage work for my wife. For men whose wives don't have non-sexual conditioning, this may be all they need because a happy woman who is deeply in love naturally wants lots of sex.

More Sexual Marriage taught me how to help my wife unlearn her non-sexual conditioning and how to help me be a sexually attractive MAN so that my wife could be sexually attracted to me and the marriage would work for me too, and not just for her. I needed this because I had never learned how to be the kind of man who women are sexually attracted to and had married a woman who had been conditioned by her personal history to be non-sexual.

I haven't looked back, and it was easily the best thing I ever did for my marriage, which is now one of the best parts of my whole life. And it was a lot less costly than marriage counseling, an affair, and/or a divorce.

BTW, I don't get a penny from Calle or anyone else for saying this. I just get the satisfaction of having potentially helped a fellow man.


...Muppet

I agree 100% with what Muppet just said. Almost to a tee, I was fantasizing about other women, had a cute girl in the office who liked to drink, party, and even talk openly about how she loves to just get crazy and have wild sex. She was sensing my vibe about wanting to get my groove on and decided to flirt back. She even followed me into the gym to work out with me. I of course subconsciously was leading her on.

However just like Muppet, I first got the Exual Marriage book which helped masculinity and attractivess, then the nymph wife book which is about fulfililng a womans emotional needs. It took a couple months of frustration hidden from bad intimacy, but after a couple months my wife admitted to me some things I did that really hurt her and I had the opportunity to apologize. Things I didn't even know where there such as being insensitive about wanting sex right away after she had our last baby. I was a baby about it then and didn't realize the impact.

My wife was getting flirty outside our marriage to, reconnected with her "x" on facebook and uninvited me to her 20 year high school reunion. I needed to change things quick. Though she told me of her facebook connection, she said she was just curious and its normal, after all I had some past flings in my friends list. (her mirroring me example)

I don't get paid either and am not a consultant or employee of this company in any way. Just another consumer who had great success like Muppet and want to spread the knowledge. YOu can turn this around quickly with the books muppet suggested - I think they're both equally important. I got best lover to, and though good, the two nymph wife and sexual marriage books will have all the tools you need to get started.

Now you have two people who don't know each other (muppet and I) telling you the exact same thing. I called Calle to before buying his books, he talked to me for 45 minutes, he is passionate about helping men and will be your ongoing marriage coach as is this forum.